Roz Goodall
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Roz Goodall commented,
I don't think employers can delete funding records that have already been approved - I've just had a look on our employer/provider log in and can't see an obvious way to do it.
I don't think employers can delete funding records that have already been approved - I've just had a look on our employer/provider log in and can't see an obvious way to do it.
Roz Goodall commented,
Yes, the report shows learners that are past their planned end date, unless/until an achievement is recorded.
Yes, the report shows learners that are past their planned end date, unless/until an achievement is recorded.
Roz Goodall commented,
If the apprentice was withdrawn then you won't have claimed the 20% completion payment (and any other on programme payments if they withdrew before the planned end date), so there is still that funding available. If they completely sat EPA and you logged a fail, then the funding will have been fully claimed.
If the apprentice was withdrawn then you won't have claimed the 20% completion payment (and any other on programme payments if they withdrew before the planned end date), so there is still that fun...
Roz Goodall commented,
You don't actually have to pause the funding record at all - the end date in the ILR will take care of ensuring payments aren't taken for the BIL period. This thread might be useful as it also covers DLOCK 12: https://esfahelp.education.gov.uk/hc/en-gb/community/posts/4403073548050-DLOCK-12-error-help-please-
You don't actually have to pause the funding record at all - the end date in the ILR will take care of ensuring payments aren't taken for the BIL period. This thread might be useful as it also cove...
Roz Goodall commented,
If the first employer is a levy payer and happy to pledge the remaining funding to the new employer they could set up a transfer of funds (although that would be extremely generous of them). "The apprentice can continue their apprenticeship with a new employer, funded by a transfer of levy funds." - (https://www.gov.uk/guidance/transferring-your-apprenticeship-levy-to-another-business#what-can-levy-transfers-pay-for) TNP 3 and 4 would apply after a change of employer. To work out TNP 3 and 4 you'd need to have a look at how much funding you've actually received for the apprentice so far, and then work out the remaining funding left from the total negotiated price. Check your month end reports to make sure you have the right figures. The remaining funding would then break down as: TNP 3 : training cost remaining (total remaining funding minus TNP 4) TNP 4 : EPA cost remaining If your EPA cost was very high (over 20% of the total negotiated price) you may have already received all the training funding and some of the EPA cost.
If the first employer is a levy payer and happy to pledge the remaining funding to the new employer they could set up a transfer of funds (although that would be extremely generous of them). "The a...
Roz Goodall commented,
This is really complicated! We've had a good chat about it this afternoon. 1. If the stop date is after the month the EPA was sat you should still receive the completion payment, as the completion was earned before the stop was put in place. I don't know this works for definite - it's based on info provided from a DfE webinar on recording TNPs correctly: "If the employer edits the stop date so that it is after the completion date added to the ILR, this should allow the completion payment to be released to the provider." 2. In order to sit or resit the EPA the apprentice has to be employed (under an apprenticeship agreement). If you recorded the fail and claim the completion payment with the first employer, you've already had all the funding (assuming you charged band maximum). If that is the case you can't claim any further funding from ESFA, and would have to charge the new employer directly for any additional fees. You could allow the apprentice to resit with a new employer and charge them the resit fees. However if there is a Stop on the original funding then when the apprentice finally achieves moving the completion date to match the pass could potentially cause clawback of the completion payment. If you hadn't claimed the completion payment from the previous employer, then you could do a normal change of employer (assuming the apprentice finds a new one that is happy to take them on just for EPA) and claim the completion after the apprentice has done any resits. You'd potentially have to charge the second employer for completion 20% plus resit fees in order to not lose out.
This is really complicated! We've had a good chat about it this afternoon. 1. If the stop date is after the month the EPA was sat you should still receive the completion payment, as the completion ...
Roz Goodall commented,
Hi Steve - it sounds like they are telling you to add a new funding record for the apprentice in order to use the "send a stop request to the previous employer" function. It pops up automatically when you add a new apprentice and the system finds overlapping dates on a live funding record - normally after a warning message that asks if you are sure you've put the correct details in.
Hi Steve - it sounds like they are telling you to add a new funding record for the apprentice in order to use the "send a stop request to the previous employer" function. It pops up automatically w...
Roz Goodall commented,
Yeah the guidance does specifically say zero hours contracts are fine, but it sounds like a bit of a pain to track exactly how many working hours the apprentice has done.
Yeah the guidance does specifically say zero hours contracts are fine, but it sounds like a bit of a pain to track exactly how many working hours the apprentice has done.
Roz Goodall commented,
So this is someone that is already mid way through their apprenticeship, and is now looking to change from a 40hr/week contract to a zero hours contract?
So this is someone that is already mid way through their apprenticeship, and is now looking to change from a 40hr/week contract to a zero hours contract?