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Emma Hall commented,
Aha! Of course! Thank you Steve! Appreciate the response Thanks Emma
Aha! Of course! Thank you Steve! Appreciate the response Thanks Emma
Emma Hall commented,
Thanks Steve, I am still learning all the variances to the language to be honest and in this scenario I can now see what you mean quite clearly! Thank you - I was a little concerned there for a moment. Thanks Emma
Thanks Steve, I am still learning all the variances to the language to be honest and in this scenario I can now see what you mean quite clearly! Thank you - I was a little concerned there for a mom...
Emma Hall commented,
Thank you for your advice and guidance on this Ruth - the more we are trying to decide on a solution, the more the solution of adding the false end date to fit in with the ESFA data validity. Yes I've started a full document with all information relating to it - just in case. No, This didn't error in R06 oddly. It only became an error when we have had an early leaver and tried to close the aims. That's when the error showed up - in our R08 submission (we have apprenticeships so complete returns every month). Since this we've identified a few that will have this issue at the end of this academic year. Thanks Emma
Thank you for your advice and guidance on this Ruth - the more we are trying to decide on a solution, the more the solution of adding the false end date to fit in with the ESFA data validity. Yes I...
Emma Hall commented,
I can confirm that the ILR through FIS and then to PDSAT didn't populate the missing areas. Thanks Emma
I can confirm that the ILR through FIS and then to PDSAT didn't populate the missing areas. Thanks Emma
Emma Hall commented,
Hi Ruth, I've just caught up on the LDNS thread from last week actually which was really helpful regarding the 31Jul23 LDNS concern. The first issue is to do with a validity end date issue that we missed. Some of our learners should have finished the course by 31Aug22 but have continued into this academic year to complete it. (Due to the complex needs of our learners and covid factors for the duration of their time with us). The awarding body is looking like they will be agreeing to certificate these learners when they complete this academic year. The issue is we can't close the learning aim in this academic/funding year as the ILR makes the learner invalid as ESFA cannot fund the course this year due to the validity end date being 31Aug22. However, regardless we still need to end the learning aim at some point and assign the outcome. If we put the dates pre Aug22, this will close the learning aim and not invalid - however the learners were not complete at that time so not quite accurate. There would also be a discrepancy with what the R06 showed. However if we close the learning aim at the actual date the learner completed (in this academic year) then the learner becomes invalid upon submitting the ILR. So we aren't sure what is best to do and ESFA weren't particularly understanding the scenario. To be fair - it could be me not explaining it very well.... We are in a bit of a conundrum about it and how to sort. Thanks Emma
Hi Ruth, I've just caught up on the LDNS thread from last week actually which was really helpful regarding the 31Jul23 LDNS concern. The first issue is to do with a validity end date issue that we...
Emma Hall commented,
Hi Carrie - Yep I have not once successfully been able to upload annotations.
Hi Carrie - Yep I have not once successfully been able to upload annotations.
Emma Hall commented,
Ah I am glad you have posted this - I have also got missing data in the PDSAT reports. I was going to pop a post on to say too. The report for functional skills being one of them - Showing no learner records counted and no learner record data in 23A-105 There is also no record count nor learner record data in the following reports compared to the previous returns. 23A-210 'Negotiated Prices and Actual Cost' 23A-211 'Apprenticeship Planned Durations' Do you have missing data in these too? The rest of the reports seem to be fine as far as I can tell and when checked against the R07 PDSAT reports. Thanks Ems
Ah I am glad you have posted this - I have also got missing data in the PDSAT reports. I was going to pop a post on to say too. The report for functional skills being one of them - Showing no lear...
Emma Hall commented,
Thank you Ben, I think that is how I understood it (we are the employer and provider, therefore no negotiated change to price). So TNP the same as original aim Learning start dates are the actual learning relevant to the individual new aim/s Thanks Ems
Thank you Ben, I think that is how I understood it (we are the employer and provider, therefore no negotiated change to price). So TNP the same as original aim Learning start dates are the actual...
Emma Hall commented,
Hi, Just re-opening this query - we now have this same learner return and have added the aims in now as restarts (the others were closed out as temporary withdrawal as per guidance docs). However it isn't clear in the provider support manual what we do with the TNP ? Do we just re-add it to the new aim with the same full cost as the original? This being the Restart codes and closed aims indicate the BIL etc ? Or are we to calculate a new TNP by subtracting the weeks (or rather few days) that the learner had already done ? I can't see anything to instruct this. Also the learning aims should start on the return to learning date rather than the return to work date, correct? Thank you! Emma
Hi, Just re-opening this query - we now have this same learner return and have added the aims in now as restarts (the others were closed out as temporary withdrawal as per guidance docs). However ...