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Emma commented,
Ah that's the difference then, most of ours are still within the 6 month window. I've had issues with that though when I've continued to submit outcome 8 after the 6 months - it creates an error however still allows claiming of milestone 2... I remember a couple of previous discussions on this forum re how to adjust this at the end of the 6 month window as the guidance in the provider support document creates an error. I don't think anyone came back with a solution though! Personally I've just submitted with outcome 8 and associated errors to ensure milestone 2 payment for now, and it's on my to do list to resolve properly! Not the best solution sorry!
Ah that's the difference then, most of ours are still within the 6 month window. I've had issues with that though when I've continued to submit outcome 8 after the 6 months - it creates an error ho...
Emma commented,
I have the programme aim as outcome 8 - "not yet known" in this scenario where there has been an interview but not a job offer. Everything else looks the same I think!
I have the programme aim as outcome 8 - "not yet known" in this scenario where there has been an interview but not a job offer. Everything else looks the same I think!
Emma commented,
You do need to manually claim milestones 2 and 3 in the ILR - m1 is the only one that's automatic. For milestone 2 learners need to have both completed the learning and then either an interview or whatever the other requirement is (per your contract). You need to add a new learning aim for the interview and update that, the original component aim and the programme aim. They don't need to have achieved the programme aim (i.e. for us that's job offer) at this point. For milestone 3 as Jenny said it's an achievement date on the programme aim. Happy to chat through this if you need some support, got a lot of help when I first started doing this! This resource has some useful examples to follow: https://guidance.submit-learner-data.service.gov.uk/provider-support-manual/article/recordingskills-bootcamps-in-the-ilr
You do need to manually claim milestones 2 and 3 in the ILR - m1 is the only one that's automatic. For milestone 2 learners need to have both completed the learning and then either an interview or ...
Emma commented,
Is the error coming up for learners that are past the end of their claim date? If so the below may apply and could be causing the error: (from https://guidance.submit-learner-data.service.gov.uk/23-24/psm/article/recording-skills-bootcamps-ilr#:~:text=If%20the%20component%20learning%20aim,leading%20to%20the%20learning%20aim'%2C) The Six-Month Rule If the component learning aim is recorded as completed and no event aim has taken place, after six months (six months after the Learning actual end date of the component learning aim) record the programme aim as Completion Status = 2 'The learner has completed the learning activities leading to the learning aim', record Outcome = 3 'No achievement'. Against the component learning aim, record Completion Status = 2 'The learner has completed the learning activities leading to the learning aim' and Outcome = 1 or 3 'Achieved' or 'Not Achieved' in the Outcome field.
Is the error coming up for learners that are past the end of their claim date? If so the below may apply and could be causing the error: (from https://guidance.submit-learner-data.service.gov.uk/23...
Emma commented,
You'll need to have two learning aims to claim M1: Programme aim Component learning aim As long as those are filled in and submitted, you don't need to 'claim' M1 via the ILR, it's claimed when the learner has been on programme for the qualifying period (for us that's 14 days, not sure if there's any variety across other funders), which is worked out using the start date you enter.
You'll need to have two learning aims to claim M1: Programme aim Component learning aim As long as those are filled in and submitted, you don't need to 'claim' M1 via the ILR, it's claimed when t...