Wayne Hosking

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The formal assessment under the Exceptions rules must have been done within the first 8 weeks of the programme, also we have had EPAO portals asking for EHCP evidence to be uploaded for them to exempt the learner from L2 E&M under those rules. KR Wayne

The formal assessment under the Exceptions rules must have been done within the first 8 weeks of the programme, also we have had EPAO portals asking for EHCP evidence to be uploaded for them to exe...

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Hi,   There is two government websites that do similar things and the codes don't inter work. Check a job applicant's right to work: use their share code - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk) Check someone's immigration status: use their share code - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk) KR Wayne

Hi,   There is two government websites that do similar things and the codes don't inter work. Check a job applicant's right to work: use their share code - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk) Check someone's immig...

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Hi there, P108 You (provider) and the employer will receive a payment towards the additional cost associated with training  with Hope this helps WH

Hi there, P108 You (provider) and the employer will receive a payment towards the additional cost associated with training with Hope this helps WH

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Hi Christina,    I have been on my soapbox on this one as I don't like what the DfE have done with the rules but after several conversations and help desk queries. The conclusion is there is a co funded fee due, if you look at the small employer ILR tick box in conjunction with the funding rules and Apprenticeship technical funding and apprenticeship funding rules P187 guidance it does confirm this. ILR Specification 2025 to 2026: Attribute: Small Employer "You only need to record this field for starts up to and including 31 March 2024. You must not record this field for new starts from 1 April 2024, or where there is a change of employer and the apprenticeship originally started prior to 1 April 2024". Those coming under this were only ever 16 to 18 small employers. Apprenticeship technical funding guide from August 2025 - GOV.UK "a) where there is a change of employer, and the apprenticeship originally started prior to 1 April 2024, then the co-investment waiver will no longer apply meaning the new employer will be liable to pay co-investment (regardless of the apprentice’s age at the time (this also covers where an apprenticeship re-starts with a new employer))." So, in your case, they are classed as 18 as that was the age when they started, they worked for an over 50 company which meant there was a co funded fee. Now they are changing employer and working for a small company, they are still classed as 18 but given the rules now stipulate you must not put the small employer tick box down then they will be due a fee. I'm assuming if you don't tick small employer then they should come up onto the co investment report if the learner has been set to the co funding indicator. I don't like the policy, I still feel their technical funding guidance should be clearer under the section 6.1 to also clarify if a learner changes employer in the future then there would be a fee due if they originally came under small employer exemption as that section still talks about new starts.  That's my take on the current policy Kind regards Wayne        

Hi Christina,    I have been on my soapbox on this one as I don't like what the DfE have done with the rules but after several conversations and help desk queries. The conclusion is there is a co f...

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Hey ya,   I really cannot get my head around this one, I've also gone to the help desk, had several replies and one where they copied a reply from the specialist funding team which said exactly that. Given current policy it makes NO sense at all.  This is the reply i got.. "Thank you for contacting the Apprenticeship Service Support Team, my name is Michael. I understand from your email you would like some clarification on a change within the funding rules.   A similar query was raised to our Specialist Support Team who responded with the below.   The policy on who is eligible for the employer co-investment waiver changed on 1 April 2024; meaning the previous waiver which was determined by apprentice age and size of employer (i.e. number of employees) no longer exists. Therefore, only starts that occurred prior to this date who remain with their current employer are eligible for this waiver.   The new criteria, for the co-investment waiver, is only applicable for new starts from 1 April 2024.   Where an apprentice changes employer & remains on the same apprenticeship, this is classed as a continuous learner (even if there is a break between leaving their original employer and starting with their new employer) – it is not classed as a 'new' start.    When determining eligibility for the co-investment waiver we will look at the original start date of the apprenticeship training. Therefore, if the apprenticeship training started prior to 1 April 2024, then no co-investment waiver will be applied & the new employer will be liable to pay co-investment." Thoughts?

Hey ya,   I really cannot get my head around this one, I've also gone to the help desk, had several replies and one where they copied a reply from the specialist funding team which said exactly tha...

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Hi Steve,   After four emails i eventually got some information, see below. Thanks for responding. Wayne [image]

Hi Steve,   After four emails i eventually got some information, see below. Thanks for responding. Wayne