Helen Bryant
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Helen Bryant commented,
Hi Apprenticeship Service Engagement. Thanks for your reply, it's much appreciated.
Hi Apprenticeship Service Engagement. Thanks for your reply, it's much appreciated.
Helen Bryant commented,
Ruth Canham-James - the guidance that's appeared on our TAS account doesn't mention anything about employers not being able to set up cohorts. I guess if an employer doesn't want to give us permission to set up the cohort on their behalf, then they still need an option to do it themselves. And, as you say, when a levy transfer is involved, then the only way to do this is for the employer to create the cohort themselves. Would you mind updating this thread if you hear back from the DfE please regarding the error? Thanks
Ruth Canham-James - the guidance that's appeared on our TAS account doesn't mention anything about employers not being able to set up cohorts. I guess if an employer doesn't want to give us permiss...
Helen Bryant commented,
I'm wondering that too, whether the AS team know about the ILR validation rules. But, for now, the errors have disappeared so we'll see what happens. Thanks for your input Timmo.
I'm wondering that too, whether the AS team know about the ILR validation rules. But, for now, the errors have disappeared so we'll see what happens. Thanks for your input Timmo.
Helen Bryant commented,
Hi Timmo The error code is AFinDate_03. There was an update to the 25/26 Validation rules on the 13th August: ILR_Validation_Rules_2025_26_Version_2.xlsx You're right, the issue is with the TNP record rather than the start date of the learning aims but in order for the apprentice to appear in the ILR, we need a TNP record. Interestingly though, we've just run the error report again and the error has disappeared!
Hi Timmo The error code is AFinDate_03. There was an update to the 25/26 Validation rules on the 13th August:ILR_Validation_Rules_2025_26_Version_2.xlsxYou're right, the issue is with the TNP recor...
Helen Bryant commented,
Hi Richard Thanks for your reply. This is concerning as, during a recent Apprenticeship Service webinar, it was made very clear that future start dates could be submitted in the ILR. With the removal of the option to manually add apprentices's details to TAS happening soon, we will have no choice but to enter learners in the ILR who have not started yet. But if these learners are going to error, they won't be available to select to add their details in TAS. Waiting until the learners have started before we gain employer approval is too late. Is anyone having any success in adding apprentices in the ILR with future start dates?
Hi Richard Thanks for your reply. This is concerning as, during a recent Apprenticeship Service webinar, it was made very clear that future start dates could be submitted in the ILR. With the remov...
Helen Bryant commented,
Yes, hopefully we won't get too many instances of this but, as you say, we need to ensure all of our paperwork covers this so we're not caught out. The webinar link is below but looks like it's now sold out 🫤 Apprenticeship Service | GoToStage.com
Yes, hopefully we won't get too many instances of this but, as you say, we need to ensure all of our paperwork covers this so we're not caught out. The webinar link is below but looks like it's now...
Helen Bryant commented,
Yep, totally agree with everything you've said. There's an Apprenticeship Service webinar next week isn't there so I'm going to raise the question about the 'published' typical duration. I still can't get my head around the witholding of the final instalment of the additional payment if a learner completes earlier than 12 months on a standard that has a 'published' typical duration of 12 months or more. So, if a learner completes in month 11 (which they can now do under the new min duration rules) we and the employer will not be entitled to the final £500 - that's right isn't it? We now have to ensure our Contract for Services reflects this new rule but I'm just bracing myself for the complaints from employers when they don't get their money!
Yep, totally agree with everything you've said. There's an Apprenticeship Service webinar next week isn't there so I'm going to raise the question about the 'published' typical duration.I still can...
Helen Bryant commented,
Hi Ruth Looking at the new Annex C, there's an explanation as to how they've arrived at the minimum OTJ hours which may help to answer your query re the Customer Service Practitioner standard: [image] This specifically mentions IFATE (obviously now Skills England) so maybe this will be the source they will use for 'Published Typical Durations?'
Hi Ruth Looking at the new Annex C, there's an explanation as to how they've arrived at the minimum OTJ hours which may help to answer your query re the Customer Service Practitioner standard: This...
Helen Bryant commented,
Hi Darren. Yes, they eventually did respond but they are now asking for encrypted reports which I'll send off this week. I'll post another update if I get a satisfactory answer.
Hi Darren. Yes, they eventually did respond but they are now asking for encrypted reports which I'll send off this week. I'll post another update if I get a satisfactory answer.
Helen Bryant commented,
Thanks Melanie Aspinall - appreciate your response. I guess I'll follow their advice and see if I get a satisfactory response.
Thanks Melanie Aspinall - appreciate your response. I guess I'll follow their advice and see if I get a satisfactory response.