Sam Bern
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Sam Bern commented,
Thanks for that Chris and Melanie! I must have missed it. Guess we'll use last years working papers. Then go again in a few months time when they're out. We want to get in two internal audits a year, so we can check if any actions we find in the first have been fixed by the second. But realistically if we don't do one this month we won't have time to implment any changes and then check again as a part of a continuous improvement cycle. Fingers crossed there won't be too many changes! (looks at functional skills, looks at minimum duration).
Thanks for that Chris and Melanie! I must have missed it. Guess we'll use last years working papers. Then go again in a few months time when they're out. We want to get in two internal audits a yea...
Sam Bern commented,
Yeah I feel we can plan with that, but we're not going to communicate that to learners until it's clearly communicated.
Yeah I feel we can plan with that, but we're not going to communicate that to learners until it's clearly communicated.
Sam Bern commented,
I'm hoping it applies to all learners, but learners are able to continue with and achieve their Functional Skills after EPA. We're already getting learners ask us if they need to achieve their functional skills this morning we've said that we'll know more in a week.
I'm hoping it applies to all learners, but learners are able to continue with and achieve their Functional Skills after EPA. We're already getting learners ask us if they need to achieve their func...
Sam Bern commented,
I was wondering if you got an answer regarding this. We're trying to understand if this flexibility applies to level 3 Apprentices or if it's just to level 2.
I was wondering if you got an answer regarding this. We're trying to understand if this flexibility applies to level 3 Apprentices or if it's just to level 2.
Sam Bern commented,
About to give this a go with a learner. Before you reach out to the ESFA support desk, it's a good idea to have this information to hand. Old employer: New employer: Apprentice Name: Apprentice DOB: Apprentice ULN: Standard completed by the Apprentice: Apprenticeship Start Date: Apprenticeship End Date (current predicted): You the provider confirm the apprentice was employed and at gateway before subsequently changing employer who are unwilling or unable to support the apprenticeship. (Yes/No) The apprentice is or was employed throughout the duration of the End-Point Assessment period (Yes/No) The End Point Assessment Organisation (EPAO) has confirmed that the EPA can be taken satisfactorily with the apprentice’s current employment status. (Yes/No) Has the EPA already been taken? (Yes/No) Provider UKPRN: Provider Name: Unique Learner Number (ULN): Apprenticeship Standard: EPAO name: EPAO Organisation ID (Finding an end-point assessment organisation - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)): Total value to be claimed via EAS (20% of the total negotiated price and value must not exceed 20% of the maximum funding band)
About to give this a go with a learner. Before you reach out to the ESFA support desk, it's a good idea to have this information to hand. Old employer: New employer: Apprentice Name:Apprentice DOB:...
Sam Bern commented,
Thank you for that. Yes you were right, I'd used the wrong link on the submit learner data home page, I'd gone to the reports views. I can see what we need to amend now.
Thank you for that. Yes you were right, I'd used the wrong link on the submit learner data home page, I'd gone to the reports views. I can see what we need to amend now.
Sam Bern commented,
Thanks Steve, that's really useful feedback from them. I've briefed our team that we might get a call in the next couple of weeks and we've discussed our response and our pipeline of achievements between r10 and r12. I had to admit I didn't notice the r12 data getting used last year. I get the feeling r12 would have been less of a shock as r11 and r12 are completion heavy months for us. The EPAO's we use start to fill up in April with the end of year rush, so any gateways that happen after March tend not to complete until at least June or July.
Thanks Steve, that's really useful feedback from them. I've briefed our team that we might get a call in the next couple of weeks and we've discussed our response and our pipeline of achievements b...
Sam Bern commented,
This was happening to us as well, however when I logged into the dashboard today it seems to have resolved and the learners who have returned have disappeared from the dashboard.
This was happening to us as well, however when I logged into the dashboard today it seems to have resolved and the learners who have returned have disappeared from the dashboard.
Sam Bern commented,
Thanks for this! It helped me confirm that I wasn't going crazy. They seem to have resolved this on our dashboard and removed the learners who have now returned. I'd opened up a customer service query, but I never got a response (haven't got a response yet). I guess it's something to keep an eye on, maybe they occasionally get the dashboard segment wrong?
Thanks for this! It helped me confirm that I wasn't going crazy. They seem to have resolved this on our dashboard and removed the learners who have now returned. I'd opened up a customer service q...
Sam Bern commented,
I understand that taking a view of all the data, however I feel it's the first time that they've used R10 data and made a judgement against us on it. If they were to do this I would have thought that maybe they'd have had a increasing minimum (by R12 you'll be above 50% but at r10 you'll be above 40%?). I'm still unsure about how they're going to use these figures as we haven't had any experience of being in the red so far. But I've briefed the rest of the management team to expect a letter or contact regarding being in the "At risk category" but that this will be resolved and we'll move to amber by the end of the year.
I understand that taking a view of all the data, however I feel it's the first time that they've used R10 data and made a judgement against us on it. If they were to do this I would have thought th...