Timmo
Have worked with ESFA training programme software for over 25 years. Formerly a senior training consultant for PICS with Pellcomp/Advanced, now available for freelance/contract work.
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Timmo commented,
Another post that the system doesn't seem to properly pick up so added again. Hi, on point 1 there is no requirement or facility to record employer contributions on the ILR for Bootcamp - PMR records are only for apprenticeships. Assuming an employer contribution is appropriate, to keep the ESFA payment at the correct level (70% or 90%) you'd set FFI=2 and, if you are a small or medium employer, OET=2.
Another post that the system doesn't seem to properly pick up so added again. Hi, on point 1 there is no requirement or facility to record employer contributions on the ILR for Bootcamp - PMR recor...
Timmo commented,
Hi Rachel. I'm trying to recall now what effect a change of employer (and thus new TNP) should have in the apps monthly report - does it add a new set of rows for the learner from the change date, so there would be two sets of rows for the same learner, same aims but with different TNP and funding? If so you might see (exact periods depending on when the new TNP was first submitted and funding created): The original funding lines under the original employer TNP1/2 stopped with payments recovered in R03 or 04 in one record set (because it should never really have existed in 23/24) A new set of records under the new employer TNP3/4, with arrears of funding for R01&02 totalled in R03 (or R04) and then continuing as it should do thereafter. Might need a manual adjustment to sort out the July R12 amount, as it's too late to correct that ILR. I haven't seen one of these for quite a while though so would be good if someone who has could confirm how they appear now.
Hi Rachel. I'm trying to recall now what effect a change of employer (and thus new TNP) should have in the apps monthly report - does it add a new set of rows for the learner from the change date, ...
Timmo commented,
Hi, a couple of thoughts although they may not help that much as you seem to be on the right lines: Have you added new TNP 3/4 records for the new employer (not mentioned above)effective from the change date? When was the change of employer first added to the system and uploaded to ESFA? Just wondering if it wasn't done until R04 and that's what triggered the funding stop. Otherwise it does seem odd that you were paid for 3 months and then it stopped.
Hi, a couple of thoughts although they may not help that much as you seem to be on the right lines: Have you added new TNP 3/4 records for the new employer (not mentioned above)effective from the ...
Timmo commented,
Hi, on point 1 there is no requirement or facility to record employer contributions on the ILR for Bootcamp - PMR records are only for apprenticeships. Assuming an employer contribution is appropriate, to keep the ESFA payment at the correct level (70% or 90%) you'd set FFI=2 and, if you are a small or medium employer, OET=2.
Hi, on point 1 there is no requirement or facility to record employer contributions on the ILR for Bootcamp - PMR records are only for apprenticeships. Assuming an employer contribution is appropri...
Timmo commented,
Re posting as this seems to be another comment that isn't being properly saved/recorded. So the learner is employed but the employer is not making a financial contribution to the Bootcamp? The funding guidance page 9 reads "Courses are fully funded by Government for independent learners (individuals not being co-funded by their employer), and for the self-employed." Based on the technical funding rules (section on co-funding) I think you set the aim FFI=1 to prevent a 10% or 30% reduction in the ESFA payment. You might want to check the funding guidance to be sure that no employer contribution is appropriate.
Re posting as this seems to be another comment that isn't being properly saved/recorded. So the learner is employed but the employer is not making a financial contribution to the Bootcamp? The fund...
Timmo commented,
So the learner is employed but the employer is not making a financial contribution to the Bootcamp? The funding guidance page 9 reads "Courses are fully funded by Government for independent learners (individuals not being co-funded by their employer), and for the self-employed." Based on the technical funding rules (section on co-funding) I think you set the aim FFI=1 to prevent a 10% or 30% reduction in the ESFA payment. You might want to check the funding guidance to be sure that no employer contribution is appropriate.
So the learner is employed but the employer is not making a financial contribution to the Bootcamp? The funding guidance page 9 reads "Courses are fully funded by Government for independent learner...
Timmo commented,
Hi, never used Aptem but I have a feeling it was built originally for apprenticeships? Possibly for structural reasons it always needs to 'group' a learner's aims within a programme aim, even if that doesn't reflect the actual delivery and the aim is not exported to ESFA? Either that or someone hasn't grasped how AEB works.
Hi, never used Aptem but I have a feeling it was built originally for apprenticeships? Possibly for structural reasons it always needs to 'group' a learner's aims within a programme aim, even if t...
Timmo commented,
Hi, the 'To' date is mandatory for LSF, as per this ILR spec page. This PSM page explains a bit more about general completion for LSF records. You can add further LSF records if required.
Hi, the 'To' date is mandatory for LSF, as per this ILR spec page. This PSM page explains a bit more about general completion for LSF records. You can add further LSF records if required.
Timmo commented,
Very belated thoughts on this (not even using xmas as an excuse...). I haven't seen any technical guidance on this yet (unless that is further down the email mine) but based on this note, all the references in here are to the aim start rather than programme start: "This uplift will apply to apprentices that start their English and Maths qualifications from 1 January 2023" (their typo, I assume, not mine) "This will apply to apprentices who are starting their English and Maths provisions from 1 January 2024 onwards." And so on. Presumably they will look at things like the aim restart status and original start date, as well as start date, to identify valid aims. Otherwise they'd have to link the FS aims to the programme aim and work from that start date (doable but fiddly).
Very belated thoughts on this (not even using xmas as an excuse...). I haven't seen any technical guidance on this yet (unless that is further down the email mine) but based on this note, all the r...
Timmo commented,
Hi, The Learning Support Funding field for an aim requires a 'from' and 'to' date for the funding duration. The FAM record can't be left open. This page explains the 'to' date. Additional LSF records can be added for an aim to cover multiple periods of support. HTH
Hi, The Learning Support Funding field for an aim requires a 'from' and 'to' date for the funding duration. The FAM record can't be left open. This page explains the 'to' date. Additional LSF reco...